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	<title>Comments on: &quot;The Party of &#039;No&#039;&quot; says &quot;Yes we can&quot; to Obama&#039;s web site design</title>
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		<title>By: John Stevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Stevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 18:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Les Otten is a self made man and wants to run for Governor of the Great State Of Maine. He can&#039;t be any worse than the clowns that have been sucking the state dry with useless legislation. Loud motorcycles, loud wind turbines and loud whining from the retirees that replace the smart young clooege kids that leave the state because there is no money to be made in Maine. How about Peter Vigue of Cianbro. Satrted as a laborer and worked his way up. Thats what Les did @ Sunday River. Lay off the pooor guy and get a life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Les Otten is a self made man and wants to run for Governor of the Great State Of Maine. He can&#8217;t be any worse than the clowns that have been sucking the state dry with useless legislation. Loud motorcycles, loud wind turbines and loud whining from the retirees that replace the smart young clooege kids that leave the state because there is no money to be made in Maine. How about Peter Vigue of Cianbro. Satrted as a laborer and worked his way up. Thats what Les did @ Sunday River. Lay off the pooor guy and get a life.</p>
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		<title>By: Mandy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 08:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The otten website was \&quot;designed\&quot; by Insyst new media http://www.insyt.biz, I think its safe to say they have just proven that they are prepared to steal other designers work. Looking at their work I can see why they have done this as it is to a very poor standard.
There are some companies that cheapen the web industry by creating very average websites . Insyst New Media is one of them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The otten website was \&quot;designed\&quot; by Insyst new media <a href="http://www.insyt.biz" rel="nofollow">http://www.insyt.biz</a>, I think its safe to say they have just proven that they are prepared to steal other designers work. Looking at their work I can see why they have done this as it is to a very poor standard.</p>
<p>There are some companies that cheapen the web industry by creating very average websites . Insyst New Media is one of them.</p>
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		<title>By: Lexi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lexi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 21:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarah-
Your &quot;comparison of political logos&quot; is laughable.  Nice try, but you totally missed the mark.  Otten did not simply use an &quot;O&quot; with colors similar to that of Obama&#039;s &quot;O,&quot; he stole the design.  The red and white &quot;field&quot; of stripes and blue arch on Obama&#039;s logo are obviously meant to evoke the flag.  Otten&#039;s does the same with the colors reversed and waves it a bit for good measure.  Sure, he adds a mountain and leaf to update the design, but you&#039;ve got to be out of your mind not to see how the original design remains.  Otten is a hack to do this.
If he had done what is suggested by your link and simply used the same shape and colors, his logo wouldn&#039;t just build on the design elements of Obama&#039;s, it would be ORIGINAL.  Clearly, it is not.  Obama&#039;s logo and Pepsi&#039;s are the same in this sense- they both are circular with the same colors- but the effect is very different.
As for the bumper sticker section of the page from your link: you earn a big &quot;fail&quot; for thinking they look the same!  These are all great examples of how using the same shape and colors can yield different results if the &quot;designer&quot; doesn&#039;t just steal someone else&#039;s concept.
Furthermore, it&#039;s not just the logo that&#039;s in question, it&#039;s Otten&#039;s entire website that is built to look like Obama&#039;s.  But, I&#039;m sure you think that all websites that use blue, red, and white look this similar, so I won&#039;t bother going into more detail.
Bottom line: Otten&#039;s attempt to cash in on Obama&#039;s political success and current popularity is pathetic, and I predict it backfires with his base.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarah-</p>
<p>Your &#8220;comparison of political logos&#8221; is laughable.  Nice try, but you totally missed the mark.  Otten did not simply use an &#8220;O&#8221; with colors similar to that of Obama&#8217;s &#8220;O,&#8221; he stole the design.  The red and white &#8220;field&#8221; of stripes and blue arch on Obama&#8217;s logo are obviously meant to evoke the flag.  Otten&#8217;s does the same with the colors reversed and waves it a bit for good measure.  Sure, he adds a mountain and leaf to update the design, but you&#8217;ve got to be out of your mind not to see how the original design remains.  Otten is a hack to do this.</p>
<p>If he had done what is suggested by your link and simply used the same shape and colors, his logo wouldn&#8217;t just build on the design elements of Obama&#8217;s, it would be ORIGINAL.  Clearly, it is not.  Obama&#8217;s logo and Pepsi&#8217;s are the same in this sense- they both are circular with the same colors- but the effect is very different.</p>
<p>As for the bumper sticker section of the page from your link: you earn a big &#8220;fail&#8221; for thinking they look the same!  These are all great examples of how using the same shape and colors can yield different results if the &#8220;designer&#8221; doesn&#8217;t just steal someone else&#8217;s concept.</p>
<p>Furthermore, it&#8217;s not just the logo that&#8217;s in question, it&#8217;s Otten&#8217;s entire website that is built to look like Obama&#8217;s.  But, I&#8217;m sure you think that all websites that use blue, red, and white look this similar, so I won&#8217;t bother going into more detail.</p>
<p>Bottom line: Otten&#8217;s attempt to cash in on Obama&#8217;s political success and current popularity is pathetic, and I predict it backfires with his base.</p>
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		<title>By: sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 17:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check this out, a comparison of political logos
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-lQ7I9OMnns/SkzhBfX_e1I/AAAAAAAAAI0/yortsd-z9Ug/s1600-h/otten_logo.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check this out, a comparison of political logos</p>
<p><a href="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-lQ7I9OMnns/SkzhBfX_e1I/AAAAAAAAAI0/yortsd-z9Ug/s1600-h/otten_logo.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_-lQ7I9OMnns/SkzhBfX_e1I/AAAAAAAAAI0/yortsd-z9Ug/s1600-h/otten_logo.jpg</a></p>
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